-from TC in RE: Chicopee Residents Complain About Westover Job Corps Center (2009)
I’ve brought this story up between Pittsburgh Job Corps students, along with various stories from this site as conversations of the program. There are a lot of students who know this program is badly managed and doesn’t set examples of the way a Nation should run. We see how Job Corps is run, and we see how the Government is run. There are students, most probably who would never guess the amount of corruption this program has.
Most of the students who are 18-over would agree that they shouldn’t place a curfew on those students who are adult age. Why would they need to treat us like children? At Pittsburgh, a curfew is 11:00pm for Sun-Thur & 2:00am for Fri-Sat, but then again the MAC sheet doesn’t get displayed until 6:00AM and you wouldn’t be AWOL until the training day starts.
I understand a curfew for certain students, such as all minors, students on CSIO probation, & perhaps C-Prep Kids. I believe that Job Corps doesn’t live up to the “Independant Living” it says it does. Not only would I support lifting a curfew for adult students, I wouldn’t be angry if they didn’t have an RA wake us up to make sure we’re not AWOL/late for class. Tell these kids to wake themselves up at their own responsibility, even if it means buying an alarm clock or going to bed early.
To all those staff/Pro Job Corps people who would oppose a curfew lift: How can you have “maturity” ever be a reason? Would these staff members think it’s fair a 24 year old Job Corps student gets to party on Friday but has to stop drinking just in time to be back and sober (possible?) at 2:00am but have a 18-year old Pitt University student party all Friday night even though he’s underage but has no curfew time to be back on center?
-from TC RE: Readers Comments About Roy Adams and Shriver Job Corps Center
As I’ve been at Pittsburgh Job Corps’ Centre for six months I have had disputes with about six different staff members. One RA, which I figured was a smaller issue, 3 OCT staff members (Pre-Co instructor, My Pre-Co counselor, & OCT Supervisor) & I have issues with the centre director & his accomplice 2nd in charge admin.
It seems like that when a student has an issue with a staff member, the student’s complaint is immediately shut down and the staff member who is being accused of something is automatically defended.
For instance, I had a case brought up to HR about the OCT supervisor who tried to get me have a hospital fax a documentation stating information about my grandmother in the ICU. The info he wanted was info such as the hospital’s phone number, my grandmother’s condition & her potential duration at the ICU. ALL of that particular information is ILLEGAL. I reported this all to HR and the Admins did nothing but defend OCT. I had three incidents THIS WEEK ALONE occur over OCT’s staff trying to make me feel outcasted/shunned so I would in their hopes, self-term. I reported this all to the CD & he defends OCT and their “strong, 2 year dedication to Job Corps”.
I’d go to the Regional Office but why bother? Are they any different and less ignorant to student’s complaints?
-from TC RE: Disorderly Conduct at Keystone Job Corps Center
This seems like an unfair act for the girl who was possibly assaulted. What are students doing at 4:30 in the MORNING rioting and causing a racket. When is their curfew time?
In the Pittsburgh Centre I attend now, you wouldn’t get very far even making yourself visible at this time of the morning. It seems that certian centres are following certain rules more enforcibly than other rules depending on what problems occur within just a particular centre?
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September 28, 2010 • 12:39 pm 11
Read a Student’s Ripoff Report About His Experience at Joliet Job Corps
The student is very articulate and describes his experience at Joliet Job Corps as a “nightmare, discrimination and abuse”. This student’s observations remind me of some of the things I saw as a a staff person at Shriver Job Corps managed by Adams and Associates…
Some of the high points of this student’s observations:
“As a punishment in the building/trades department, students (including minors) were made to carry lumber from one side of the football field to the other for 6 hours of classroom time”.
“At one point, I caught the records manager on center over a weekend (two days before a major review). He was toting out boxloads of documents to the garbage dumpster…. So much for protecting privacy”!
” During the month of April, my dormitory had no toilet paper, handsoap, or paper towels to which we could dry our hands. My dormitory had no drinking water… which means on weekends, no drinks before 11am and no drinks after 10pm! Most of the toilets were constantly backed up and overflowing. On one occasion, a fight occurred in the lower (academic) hallways and a student bled all over the wall. 11 days later, the blood was STILL all over the wall – Neither the medical staff nor safety staff wanted to take responsibility for cleaning it and students were forced to do it. It was only washed off – The area was not sanitized”.
“Despite regulations against those with felonies attending the program, MANY were being sentenced there by family judges. Several students urinated in an empty drink bottle and then poured it on the face/down the throat of a student as he was asleep. Those guilty were punished, but not removed from the center”.
“Some electrical outlets hung from the walls by the wiring in the dormitories”.
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