Bob Confer’s post in the New American talks about how the US Government has created poverty instead of alleviating its presence. He briefly mentions Job Corps as one of the wasteful programs that deserves a discerning look. Confer mentions the “redundancy” of Job Corps and the fact that its programs are duplicated elsewhere in the private sector and schools. Redundancy is apparently another rationale for saying that Job Corps is expensive and should be eliminated.
I think why Job Corps has survived the “redundancy” accusation is because it’s highly touted as being the program of last resort for those who have been kicked out of high school, for the juvenile delinquents and misfits and for those who can’t read. It’s a place to gather all “these” kids together and present Job Corps as a “one of a kind” program that isn’t duplicated anywhere else. It’s not the program Job Corps is selling, it’s the attendees. And the message is: “Look how we take these inner city delinquents and cure them of their gang affiliations”, or, “Everyone else has given up on certain students, just give us six months and we’ll turn them around and give them a new attitude, a high school diploma and a trade on top of it all”. Unfortunately, if it sounds too good to be true, most of the time it’s a lie.
Job Corps also has other kinds of attendees, the student who, for some reason or another wasn’t able to complete high school, or, the student from a broken family who is looking for an education and some stability. Sometimes, kids without any behavioral problems at all enroll because they think it’s a place where they’ll get a quality, free, education and they believe what the glossy brochures and smooth talking recruiters tell them. I’ve spoken to those “other” kinds of students and heard the stories about the gangs, beat downs and blanket parties. I’ve heard about the prevalence of drugs in the dorms and on campus. As a staff, I’ve also seen known drug-dealer students kept on the attendance rolls because we needed “the numbers”. Last, I’ve seen the stars slowly fade from student’s eyes when they suspect that they aren’t getting the dream of the education they deserve or when they notice that the overworked and underpaid teachers or staff don’t have the time to spend with them.
Sure, there are a few Job Corps students who do a complete turn-around, but unfortunately, they are the minority. The vast majority are proved, through corrected statistics and scientific evidence that they are no better off than before they enrolled. What gives? Why are we paying for this program? I believe that we too have stars in our eyes and want to believe that there is a magic bullet “out there” that will, once and for all, cure the troubled youth of our century and for now, Job Corps fulfills the fairly tale. We need the “dream” as much as the kids do…
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August 4, 2010 • 7:58 am 1
Reader’s Controversial Comments About Martin Gross’s Statements
These are few comments from yesterday’s post about Martin Gross’s interview and “Job Corps and the Government Racket”. I remain fascinated that Job Corps supporters and detractors are so passionately polarized. Having worked in two different Job Corps Centers: Shriver in Devens, MA and Kittrell, NC I feel aptly qualified to say I saw for myself the waste, inefficiency and focus on numbers to the detriment of the students. I am thinking that Job Corps most passionate defenders have never worked inside a Job Corps Center? I can’t believe that anyone would have been an employee and still wholeheartedly defend its purpose. Only an outsider, not privy to the inner workers of these contractor cash cows would make a statement such as the following:
-from Marianne
So many good kids take advantage of the Job Corps opportunity, do the hard work, follow the rules, get their GEDs or HS diplomas and tech certifications. Any good program has its failures, detractors and disappointments. But Job Corps is just about the only safe place left for youth who have fallen through the cracks of school & society.
Even on the most poorly-run center – and there are some, as well as superbly-run centers – the program works for kids who take it seriously. And on every single center there are dedicated staff who love the kids, believe in them, and love their jobs. Why? Because the program works, the opportunity is there, and it’s a great second chance for tens of thousands of kids each year.
Win some, lose some. At Job Corps there are more winners than losers by far. I dare you to prove otherwise!!
-from Andrea, Job Corps Fraud
We do not dispute that there are success stories from Job Corps. However, there are two sides to every story and the “other side” of Job Corps must be told. There is too much propoganda and illusions about this program in the press today. Please, I urge you to click around this site and read research studies done by scientists and reputable economists who have studied Job Corps extensively. Instead of challenging me, read the factual reports on this site. Thanks so much. I think the site speaks for itself. Andrea for Job Corps Fraud
-from Nancy
Exactly whose butt are you trying to KI##, the Job Corps have had historically SUCH a LOW %%% of success that it DOES NOT make any of them worth the money that spent on them. Stop drinking the Kool Aid, and WAKE UP. And STOP most importantly condoning STEALING from honest tax payers by this program.
-from Harold
Marianne,
“I dare you to prove otherwise!!” ? Just look at the statistical reports, the OMS10, which is bogus anyway, and you will see the proof right there. If the statistics weren’t manipulated for that report, the results would be even worse.
Andrea is correct – unless you have worked in the system, as I have for many years, you have no idea what is really going on.
“Only safe place left” – I’ve been on centers where students rioted, assaults and beat-downs were common, gang activity flourished, drugs were rampant, and even a death occurred. These centers are not as safe as you might want people to believe. They are understaffed, especially after class and on week-ends, when most of the negative behavior happens. If you knew where to look for student accounts of what goes on “after hours” you would see the truth.
Marianne, you seem to be someone who wants to present a different picture of Job Corps to the public. Be honest, are you a contractor, a parent or a naive employee who doesn’t see the forest for the trees? Maybe you have a job at a Job Corps because you have a political patronage job and are protected for awhile anyway. If you are an employee, save your money – chances are your day will come and you will be unemployed too like so many others.
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